yo proctor family… we just got a great south swell in acapulco, right when all the cartel craziness…. i decided to ride the apache. man it is one of the best board i have ever ridden, 5'8" in solid 8 to 10 feet seems fake but it's not - that thing can be push as far as u want, and today i used in 4 ft and was amazing - light fast & responsive, not to mention I am 200 pounds.thanks proctor, u have some picts soon, god blessJordy Sanchez, Acapulcoht: 6'0" wt: 200 lbApache: 5'11" x 20 1/4" x 2 3/8" apache tailProxy Titanium Series with Carbon Hinged Flex-tail